sometimes we get mail from people who don't like us very much. ofcourse,
we're extremely fine with that fact. here we'll post thishate mail in all its glory.

a number of pbs "playaz" are producing tunes now.....
however, not all of them are well liked my the public...

>Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:57:24 -0500>From: "Selekta Kids" >Reply-To:
>To: "pb-cle raves" >Subject: {pb-cle} Flattery>X-Mailer: >Sender: pb-cle-raves-owner@hyperreal.org>X-files: scully!>>I just wanted to thank both Chemlab (fort hosting it) and
someone from PBS >for the wonderful song that bears my name.>>It is caled "David Meeker take it deeper" or something stupid
like >that.  I think that is GREAT!  What a hoot!>>Too bad the song is terrible! I wish I knoew who produced the track
>though.  I would like to give them some hints and tips on how to write >music! That track is total poo poo!  In the wors of
one of my >co-workers.... "That sucks Ass!">>If you are going to write music... even as a gag, you should at least make
>good music!  Oh well!  I guess it is almost like teaching a really bad >artist how to paint or something!  It would
probably take too long anyway!>>They say the biggest form of flattery is jealousy.  And.. well, I am >flattered!>>I wish I
had time to make silly songs too! hehe.  I am just too busy >working, and being an adult these days!>>Anyway,>>Keep it
Real!>And polish up your Music Production Skills!>>>Dave>

the pbs cheerleader/hookers made their first appearance at "Break of Dawn",in full hardcore bitch attire. apparently they "killed the vibe" for some ravergirl...

  Let me
just say that this party was awesome!!  One of the best that i have been to in a long time.  Great job Aurora!  I arrived
around 11 and the crowd was just right not too packed and definently enough room for me to dance my little ass off!  The
venue was phat as hell!  I hope that we can use this one more often.  The vibe was great--everyone was so nice and not a lot
of cracked out people--and what i liked was that 20 different people came up to me trying to sell me drugs.  I had had one
bad vibe experience last night and that was with the ahhh i think the call themselves the "hardcore bitches" umm yeah
anyway--they were really rude to me and my friend yeah remember us up on the stage--haha!  That was the only bad experience
we had but like when i break a nail, i didnt think anything of them i wasnt gonna let them ruin my night!  Overall this
party was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!  Thanks again guys!!Hugs and smilesJen:)

that old cad, Marney Theinner sure knows alot about the evil ways of "ravers". to whit,here's an email posted to the pgh goth list that really showed us whot-for!

manny@telerama.com wrote:On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Chris Rapier wrote:> affectations. Anyway, I'd go out with
him and we'd run into his high school> raver friends and you could feel the hostility pouring out from some of them.> I
didn't know the music, I didn't like their drugs and I'd never been to one> of their events so most of them dismissed me out
of hand. 'eh. Not a big deal,Tell me about it.Last weekend, I was invited to show up at a party at the Projekthaus
(aninformal private where small techno parties happen) and spin. I wasinvited by the owner of the house, upon asking. Dr.
Spanglestein of ORIalso decided to go, to provide some intermittent electronic samples fromBack to Basics. So we went there
together.I get there and find that the event consists of maybe 30 people. Ofthosepeople, about half are DJs vying
vociferously to spin on two sets ofturntables to literally nobody. That in itself is pretty funny. But Ithough, what the
hell, we're here, let's have fun anyway.But then  my companion starts to overhear several comments made about meby various
DJ/raver types there, to the effect they were either going totry to prohibit my spinning or to start trouble while I was
spinning tomess with me. I heard about this but wasn't particularly concerned, Iwasstill willing to stay and stick it out,
being that we were alreadythere.But then my companion decided that we should leave - he thought itwasn't worth the possible
trouble *and* waiting around at least anotherhour to see if we would ever get to go on at all. He said that when hetold some
of the ravers that he would be "playing" with me, they didn'teven know what that meant. So after a little logical
pro-and-condiscussion on that matter where i tried to get him to relent to noavail, we left. Which is too bad. Because all I
had brought that nightwas a crate full of *KLEZMER RECORDS*.

often, we make people hate us so much they actually love us...

Ian Ulibarri wrote:Reply to:   RE:Arrgh the pits.Yes, you speak the truth, and  I was fortunate enough to
witness  thePittsburgh piecemeal in98' when you guys booked me and the Technostate crew for "Life is but adream."  Super
diverselineup, if I recall,  I remember 187 being there, tons of dancehall,Happycore from a guycalled Dcypol and Gabbergirl.
And free Yoda toys and politicly conciousliterature.And in the back room we had super evil Fishead, Optic  with live,
hard,teethshatteringdigital noisebeat and Aneurysm (thats me)  I think that was one of the coolest events we did that whole
summer.And done by a very cool crew, PBS took very good care of us.Except when we got to their house, someone brought us a
case of ST.IdesSpecial brew, and Ithink I drank almost the whole thing and went berzerk.  I broke a ruler on Fisheads ass
while he was trying to sleep. Then Ipassed out for Two daysuntil the party.  PBS didd'nt seem to mind though.  P.S. For
everyone who wanted CDs, they are still on the way.Thanx for your patients.Ian Aneurysm

personal attacks are some of our favorites, just read this scathing analysis of cutup @submerged

Bonnie Fletcher wrote:The reason you didn't
see anyone around during cutups set was because itsucked. . .  I like hard core and speed core etc. and I left.
Hismixingwas lackluster and his tracks were boring.  I don't care if you don'tlike"happy-hardcore", but don't champion some
one's set just because itwasn't "happy".Bonnie

...this came when we announced we were putting on a rave the day before another local promotersrave...

DJCJ007@aol.com wrote:does anyone else find it weird that PBS would book a
party the daybefore an infinite velocity party. I mean the i v crew gave reliant and cutups madlove and a headlining slot.
I'm not tryin to start shit, but i just think itisn't proper.DJ DiDi

...some etarded girl didn't quite like chaotic transdimension...

well kids, i am officially turning in my pom-poms.  there's just no way inhell i can be
pbs cheerleader after attending that "rave" (if you can evenCALL it that) on  friday  night.  what a shitty party!!!  i was
sooooopissed off the ~enitre~ night.  where was the house music, huh???  comeon, pbs....that was soooo lame!!!my night
started out bad cause it was really hard to find someone sellinpills.  none of my can-d friends were there!!!  finally i
found this dudenamed jelly beans that i knew from back in the day, and he hooked me upwith some BOMB pills..  after that,
things got a little better....until itook off my shoes and socks so that my boy smurf could give me a footmassage (i likes
gettin my tootsies rubbed when i'm rollin...) and someoneSTOLE my $250 pair of tommy hilfiger socks....!!!  what the fuck,
yo!!that NEVER would have happened at someone elses party!!!!  pbs, you oweme..anyways, the music SUCKED my ass!!!  like i
said, there was NO house.????  instead, they had this noise-shit...i don't even know WHAT to callit.  i just couldn't get
into the music at all.  i hid in the bathroommost of the night with my good friends loll-E pop and peeenuts.  weexchanged
jelly bracelets and candy all night, which was basically thehighlight of my evening...when i left at 6 am, i told the
weirdos at the door that i wanted my moneyback, and  they just laughed at me!!!  can you believe that??!!!  whatASSHOLES!!
they were like, "didn't you look at the flyer???"  WHY would ido that???!  i don't get it..so that was my evening.  i would
just like to say that all of you kids outthere that are like me should NEVER EVER  ever go to a pbs party, causethey
SUCK!!!on a happier note...i am TOTALLY looking forward to respect tonight...nowTHAT will be a good
party.love,anna(aka...rEtard...)

this time after we played in columbus, we good a nice dose of hatred from "goatboy"

I, contrary to the trend, wasn't particularly fond of this event. PerhapsI assumed that noise would be the
forerunner in terms of genres, butregardless, a fan I was not.Also, i was greatly saddened that betty bombshell was unable
to make hercolumbus debut. She could have very easily made the party a success (interms of quality)breakdown:ed's set:This
set i enjoyed quite a bit. While not as harsh as I often prefer, thenoise theme was quite solid and the mixing was very
clean (I supposeeverything cannot be as desired, as you cannot afford to scare away *all*of the so-termed etards).mad
fishmonger:This started out well with a goodly bit of noise; i was pleased. But,much to my dismay, there was a constant
atrophy in quality. If i recallcorrectly, we went from the aforementioned noise, to some jungle (ugg),and ended up with some
dr. octagon (sorry hip-hop/whatever fans, dr.octagon is bloody awful). Also, more objectively (i guess), this madfishmonger
character seemed to linger too much on the 'novelty' aspects ofhis set. At first i was amused by a 'rock & roll' outbreak,
however, itdragged on through the remainder (bulk) of the set. oh well, it got theravers dancing...live pa:I think these
characters could get signed by thunderdome. It was almostall there: the haunted house style melodies (not even up to par
with theclassic terrorcore breakdown [heh]), the hi-hats, and the cheesy 909-esquebass hits. i can only praise allah that
the guitar wasn't functioning. ifeared for the worst, and got it.drcutups:I cannot safely give a full review of our dear dr.
cutups, as i departedrelatively early into his set (~35minutes or so). What i did observe wasmediocre mixing ability with no
style. I suppose this is to be expectedfrom someone who advertises himself by wearing his own shirt (it read drcutups in a
ransom letter style font with some equally lame silk-screenedpicture).Given all of this, i have to take be a bit contrarian;
do not book the pbscrew if you are looking for a 'hardcore' event. i was thoroughlydisappointed.*- aaron p. - goatboy (hrmm,
not goatboy of cincinnati)

occassionally there's a very special piece of hatemail that reachesthat special deep dark place inside your heart and you can't let go of it no matterwho tries to throw it out...

i'd like to express my
gratitude to whoever completely fucked us and ourplans for paul oakenfold.  as you may know, someone took theliberty to call
the venue owner and talk shit on us and the "rave" andthe "drugs" that we were trying to bring in.  as it stands now, i
havemylife savings tied up in this but nowhere to have the man play.  nexttime you take interest in "your scene" (please),
why don't you try to dosomething worthwhile instead of screwing up someone else's efforts.don't plan on coming to magick.  i
plan on pretending that none of youexist.kellyforward to your 1,000 other useless member, please.